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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby PurpleOlrac » 06 Mar 2010, 07:05

for me modding is not having php knowledge modding is carefull reading instructions and be able to use a logical brain also when the part comes i have a none standard style and modinstructions needs to be solved by using logic.
also it still happens when you mod a a find add replace actions isnt there anymoore cause of a update or previous mod
thats why i added mod in the list

further its for me not intended like it should show full listed but like a hover over or div collapse on the number, the php guruus here should be able to make a backgroundcalculation which will be able to determin a average if people filled in the 5 or howmany fields you wanne use to throw out the number.

so basicly what i am trying to show is a profile fields adding where the required things are and a calculation which shows the average, when hovering the average or clicking it it shows hoe the fields where the calculation was done with.
Do you need MODS installed or your phpBB upgraded, for a small fee i can help you, also custom styles. Drop me a PM or contact me over 1 of the messenger options.
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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby Erik Frèrejean » 06 Mar 2010, 07:21

The point is I don't think that anyone (at least I won't) will use this "hover" (please correct me if I'm wrong). This is simply because giving support on this site is something we all do in our free time and don't want to spend more time in a topic as necessary. Having to trigger the hover is for me something that takes "to" much time. Sure if its one topic not but if you like me read every support topic all those bits of time add up and take in time I can use better.

PurpleOlrac wrote:further its for me not intended like it should show full listed but like a hover over or div collapse on the number, the php guruus here should be able to make a backgroundcalculation which will be able to determin a average if people filled in the 5 or howmany fields you wanne use to throw out the number.

You really don't have to be a php guru to implement this in < 5 min ;).
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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby chaoskreator » 06 Mar 2010, 20:07

Wha...? How did I miss all these posts?!?

Uhmmm... No new phpBB Knowledge System! Yeah.
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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby Highway of Life » 06 Mar 2010, 20:31

I kinda like the idea, actually. I’ve been thinking about doing for the new site.
It would be optional, but you could enter in:
Just a single (overall) score: 1-10 like you do now, or you could optionally have it calculate your score automatically by grading the following:
  • PHP knowledge level (1-10)
  • HTML/CSS knowledge level (1-10)
  • phpBB knowledge level (1-10)
  • SQL knowledge level (1-10)
  • Modding knowledge level (1-10)
It would then automatically calculate your score and spit out your number.

The other benefit such a list would have (on hover), is that if for example, you have really good experience with phpBB (8 or 9 for example), but don’t know much about SQL, like Mike (Stitch626), and he asks a SQL question, I could hover, see his SQL knowledge (maybe 2) and be able to give an appropriate answer, I really think it would help in some cases for support. I do glance at that number when I'm figuring out what kind of answer I should give.
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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby ..::Frans::.. » 07 Mar 2010, 05:02

i vote a big NO.... There is no ticket for it and as it stands right now....the ucp is still giving me headaches...... tableless headaches to be exact.... :rotfl:

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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby sajaki » 07 Mar 2010, 05:45

..::Frans::.. wrote:The very best test there is is the user himself.

Someone with phpbb knowledge 10 asked me how to show a list with all users and the number of PM's each user has in his inbox....

My first answer: just left join the user and pm table on the user_id.
His first answer: HUH ?????
My second answer: maybe you should lower your knowledge level to about two, maybe three...
His second answer: Yes, good idea......

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it's the Dunning–Kruger effect that is so prevalent among Npp's (non-programming progammers). Jeff Atwood had a few things to say about that too

but that aside, i think your current badge system is fine ;)

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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby Erik Frèrejean » 07 Mar 2010, 07:18

Highway of Life wrote:I kinda like the idea, actually. I’ve been thinking about doing for the new site.
It would be optional, but you could enter in:
Just a single (overall) score: 1-10 like you do now, or you could optionally have it calculate your score automatically by grading the following:
  • PHP knowledge level (1-10)
  • HTML/CSS knowledge level (1-10)
  • phpBB knowledge level (1-10)
  • SQL knowledge level (1-10)
  • Modding knowledge level (1-10)
It would then automatically calculate your score and spit out your number.

The other benefit such a list would have (on hover), is that if for example, you have really good experience with phpBB (8 or 9 for example), but don’t know much about SQL, like Mike (Stitch626), and he asks a SQL question, I could hover, see his SQL knowledge (maybe 2) and be able to give an appropriate answer, I really think it would help in some cases for support. I do glance at that number when I'm figuring out what kind of answer I should give.

I really think this isn't going to work. Sure its fun to enter all these things and probably the average won't change for me ;). But I for one will still only be looking at the avg number that is displayed I don't think I'll take the time to make the hover and investigate the numbers displayed. You'll notice quick enough in the topic itself when the answer you've given is to difficult for the OP.
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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby Obsidian » 07 Mar 2010, 08:31

Why hover?

Why not display them all, in a straight line, underneath the user's signature?

i.e.
Code: Select all
PHP: 5 - HTML/CSS: 4 - phpBB: 4 - SQL: 3 - Modding: 4

You could pretty it up to suit your tastes, but that'd provide at-a-glance information without having to hover over something for that data.
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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby Sniper_E » 07 Mar 2010, 11:32

I like the hover approach. That would definitely be my vote too. I'd rather see the number image of your php knowledge.
Then I could hover over your php knowledge Image image and a detailed popup would show all your scores.

I have an idea.
Let's make a page with 500 questions. Divide the questions up into the 5 different categories, 100 questions for each category.
In the page, we will have 20 random questions from each category. That will make the test different for each test session.
Then the results will be entered into the user's table and posted in their profile section as a number image with a hover popup.

There.... problem solved! Any questions?
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Re: phpbb Knowledge Test

Postby chaoskreator » 07 Mar 2010, 13:07

If you guys do decide to expand on the system, I agree that the hover drop-down would be better. That way, you can see the average without reading too many numbers, then if an attempt at help doesn't work, or if it's an odd question, you can refer to the dropdown to see the where the user's weak points are.

You guys are slowly changing my mind to like the idea of a new system. lol
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